Vicky,
I did try to reply, but I was block from posting link to where your reference seem to be coming from, “American Life League”. Their mission;
The American Life League (http://www.all.org)’s (ALL) stated mission is “to serve God by helping to build a society that respects and protects innocent human life from fertilization to natural death – without compromise, without exception, without apology. The distinguishing mark of American Life League, by which we will be recognized, is our absolute commitment to the sacredness of human life.”
I will try to post my replies in part to see if they will be accepted.
Vicky January 22, 2006 8:31 pm
Some more scientific quotes for you primtv1:
Professor Micheline Matthews-Roth
Harvard University Medical School
“It is incorrect to say that biological data cannot be decisive…It is scientifically correct to say that an individual human life begins at conception.”
Dr. Alfred M. Bongioanni
Professor of Pediatrics and Obstetrics, University of Pennsylvania
“I have learned from my earliest medical education that human life begins at the time of conception.”
Dr. Jerome LeJeune
Professor of Genetics, University of Descartes
“After fertilization has taken place a new human being has come into being. [It] is no longer a matter of taste or opinion…it is plain experimental evidence. Each individual has a very neat beginning, at conception.”
Professor Hymie Gordon
Mayo Clinic
“By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception.”
Dr. Watson A. Bowes
University of Colorado Medical School
“The beginning of a single human life is from a biological point of view a simple and straightforward matter – the beginning is conception.”
The official Senate report reached this conclusion:
Physicians, biologists, and other scientists agree that conception marks the beginning of the life of a human being – a being that is alive and is a member of the human species. There is overwhelming agreement on this point in countless medical, biological, and scientific writings.
Come on, primtv1, counter this!
Hey Gordon in SF – Are you out there? Have any news from SF on the March held there in that city yesterday? Did you march with the other abortion rights advocates? Did you observe the difference in the marchers?
theprimtv1 January 22, 2006 8:02 pm
Heard today in the impeachment hearings of George Bush, after court conviction of members of his administration and Vic Cheney, came evidence that they were all conspirators in the death of theprimtv1. The NSA agent testifing on Monday, they had contracted via presidential order, the stabbing death of the primtv1. Just a month before the execution of “the coroner” ,who was convicted of the stabbing death of theprimtv1, had occurred. The attack from persons calling themselves “Vicky and the coroner”, who posted attacking statements on a radio show’s blog 1 year before, were brought as evidence in the cases where the person known as Vicky was sentences to life in prisonment with out bail, and Death penalty went to the person know as “the coroner”.
Now, the defendant known as Vicky is fight to get rulings overturned. After they had found the death of the Human Rights activist, theprimtv1, had been at the direction of their own president and his administration.
Vicky January 22, 2006 7:47 pm
My lack of intelligence offends you? Why? Because it shows you up?
Scientists don’t believe life begins at conception? Well, yeah, sure they do.
From: The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 6th ed.
Keith L. Moore, Ph.D. & T.V.N. Persaud, Md., (Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders Company, 1998), 2-18.
“[The Zygote] results from the union of an oocyte and a sperm. A zygote is the beginning of a new human being. Human development begins at fertilization, the process during which a male gamete or sperm … unites with a female gamete or oocyte … to form a single cell called a zygote. This highly specialized, totipotent cell marks the beginning of each of us as a unique individual.”
From: Essentials of Human Embryology
William J. Larsen, (New York: Churchill Livingstone, 1998), 1-17.
“In this text, we begin our description of the developing human with the formation and differentiation of the male and female sex cells or gametes, which will unite at fertilization to initiate the embryonic development of a new individual. … Fertilization takes place in the oviduct … resulting in the formation of a zygote containing a single diploid nucleus. Embryonic development is considered to begin at this point… This moment of zygote formation may be taken as the beginning or zero time point of embryonic development.”
From: Human Embryology, 3rd ed.
Bradley M. Patten, (New York: McGraw Hill, 1968), 43.
“It is the penetration of the ovum by a spermatozoan and resultant mingling of the nuclear material each brings to the union that constitues the culmination of the process of fertilization and marks the initiation of the life of a new individual.”
Briological Principles and Modern Practice of Obstetrics
J.P. Greenhill and E.A. Friedman, (Philadelphia: W.B. Sanders, 1974), 17.
“The zygote thus formed represents the beginning of a new life.”
Pathology of the Fetus and the Infant, 3d ed.
E.L. Potter and J.M. Craig, (Chicago: Year Book Medical Publishers, 1975), vii.
“Every time a sperm cell and ovum unite a new being is created which is alive and will continue to live unless its death is brought about by some specific condition.”
theprimtv1 January 22, 2006 7:29 pm
Where do you justify or come to the conclusion of when a life begins and when it ends? If you have no religious bias. Scientist do not believe it begins at conception, and they really have not documented anything that states when a society should believe life begins except for when it breaths air.
Oh yeah and your name is Vicky. What is your point in that statement about my name. To offend me? Your lack of intellegence does that for me.
Thank you for the drink
OMD=Oh My Darwin
😉
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theprimtv1 January 22, 2006 9:09 pm
Vicky,
I did try to reply, but I was block from posting link to where your reference seem to be coming from, “American Life League”. Their mission;
The American Life League (http://www.all.org)’s (ALL) stated mission is “to serve God by helping to build a society that respects and protects innocent human life from fertilization to natural death – without compromise, without exception, without apology. The distinguishing mark of American Life League, by which we will be recognized, is our absolute commitment to the sacredness of human life.”
I will try to post my replies in part to see if they will be accepted.
Vicky January 22, 2006 8:31 pm
Some more scientific quotes for you primtv1:
Professor Micheline Matthews-Roth
Harvard University Medical School
“It is incorrect to say that biological data cannot be decisive…It is scientifically correct to say that an individual human life begins at conception.”
Dr. Alfred M. Bongioanni
Professor of Pediatrics and Obstetrics, University of Pennsylvania
“I have learned from my earliest medical education that human life begins at the time of conception.”
Dr. Jerome LeJeune
Professor of Genetics, University of Descartes
“After fertilization has taken place a new human being has come into being. [It] is no longer a matter of taste or opinion…it is plain experimental evidence. Each individual has a very neat beginning, at conception.”
Professor Hymie Gordon
Mayo Clinic
“By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception.”
Dr. Watson A. Bowes
University of Colorado Medical School
“The beginning of a single human life is from a biological point of view a simple and straightforward matter – the beginning is conception.”
The official Senate report reached this conclusion:
Physicians, biologists, and other scientists agree that conception marks the beginning of the life of a human being – a being that is alive and is a member of the human species. There is overwhelming agreement on this point in countless medical, biological, and scientific writings.
Come on, primtv1, counter this!
Hey Gordon in SF – Are you out there? Have any news from SF on the March held there in that city yesterday? Did you march with the other abortion rights advocates? Did you observe the difference in the marchers?
theprimtv1 January 22, 2006 8:02 pm
Heard today in the impeachment hearings of George Bush, after court conviction of members of his administration and Vic Cheney, came evidence that they were all conspirators in the death of theprimtv1. The NSA agent testifing on Monday, they had contracted via presidential order, the stabbing death of the primtv1. Just a month before the execution of “the coroner” ,who was convicted of the stabbing death of theprimtv1, had occurred. The attack from persons calling themselves “Vicky and the coroner”, who posted attacking statements on a radio show’s blog 1 year before, were brought as evidence in the cases where the person known as Vicky was sentences to life in prisonment with out bail, and Death penalty went to the person know as “the coroner”.
Now, the defendant known as Vicky is fight to get rulings overturned. After they had found the death of the Human Rights activist, theprimtv1, had been at the direction of their own president and his administration.
Vicky January 22, 2006 7:47 pm
My lack of intelligence offends you? Why? Because it shows you up?
Scientists don’t believe life begins at conception? Well, yeah, sure they do.
From: The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 6th ed.
Keith L. Moore, Ph.D. & T.V.N. Persaud, Md., (Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders Company, 1998), 2-18.
“[The Zygote] results from the union of an oocyte and a sperm. A zygote is the beginning of a new human being. Human development begins at fertilization, the process during which a male gamete or sperm … unites with a female gamete or oocyte … to form a single cell called a zygote. This highly specialized, totipotent cell marks the beginning of each of us as a unique individual.”
From: Essentials of Human Embryology
William J. Larsen, (New York: Churchill Livingstone, 1998), 1-17.
“In this text, we begin our description of the developing human with the formation and differentiation of the male and female sex cells or gametes, which will unite at fertilization to initiate the embryonic development of a new individual. … Fertilization takes place in the oviduct … resulting in the formation of a zygote containing a single diploid nucleus. Embryonic development is considered to begin at this point… This moment of zygote formation may be taken as the beginning or zero time point of embryonic development.”
From: Human Embryology, 3rd ed.
Bradley M. Patten, (New York: McGraw Hill, 1968), 43.
“It is the penetration of the ovum by a spermatozoan and resultant mingling of the nuclear material each brings to the union that constitues the culmination of the process of fertilization and marks the initiation of the life of a new individual.”
Briological Principles and Modern Practice of Obstetrics
J.P. Greenhill and E.A. Friedman, (Philadelphia: W.B. Sanders, 1974), 17.
“The zygote thus formed represents the beginning of a new life.”
Pathology of the Fetus and the Infant, 3d ed.
E.L. Potter and J.M. Craig, (Chicago: Year Book Medical Publishers, 1975), vii.
“Every time a sperm cell and ovum unite a new being is created which is alive and will continue to live unless its death is brought about by some specific condition.”
theprimtv1 January 22, 2006 7:29 pm
Where do you justify or come to the conclusion of when a life begins and when it ends? If you have no religious bias. Scientist do not believe it begins at conception, and they really have not documented anything that states when a society should believe life begins except for when it breaths air.
Oh yeah and your name is Vicky. What is your point in that statement about my name. To offend me? Your lack of intellegence does that for me.
Thank you for the drink
OMD=Oh My Darwin
😉