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Debate Tuesday: Partisan Insults and Lies

June 28, 2005

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Guest: Jim Parmelee, Chairman of the Northern Virginia Republican Political Action Committee and President of Republicans United for Tax Relief
Karl Rove: [before conservative fund-raisers] “Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 in the attacks and prepared for war; liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers.”
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Senator Dick Durbin (D-Ill.): [quoted on the Senate Floor from an FBI agent’s report in describing detainees at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp as being chained to the floor without food or water in extreme temperatures] “If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags or some mad regime that had no concern for human beings.”
Howard Dean: [on Meet the Press]
“MR. RUSSERT: Let me talk about some of the things you have said about the Republicans. Here’s Howard Dean in January: “I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for…” Howard Dean in February: “This is a struggle between good and evil and we’re the good?” Do you really hate Republicans? Do you consider them evil?
DR. DEAN: I don’t–well, actually that was a little out of context. But I don’t hate Republicans as individuals. But I hate what the Republicans are doing to this country. I really do. I hate deficits, as you know. When I was governor, I really was very tough on fiscal responsibility. Deficits in the long run aren’t good for the country, and they do lower our standard of living. Every American family knows that you have to pay your bills. I hate the dishonesty, you know, the idea that you’d put a program through Congress without telling people what it costs, I think that’s wrong. Some of the things that the president said on our way into Iraq, they just weren’t true, and I don’t think that’s right. So…”
Congressman John Hostettler (R-Ind): [debating a Democratic amendment to the annual defense appropriations bill that would have required the Air Force Academy to develop a plan for preventing “coercive and abusive religious proselytizing”]: “The long war on Christianity in America continues today on the floor of the House of Representatives . . . continues unabated with aid and comfort to those who would eradicate any vestige of our Christian heritage being supplied by the usual suspects, the Democrats.”

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  • Vicky July 10, 2005 12:32 pm

    But of course.

  • Gordon from Bora Bora July 10, 2005 12:13 pm

    Vicky–perhaps you know something I don’t

  • Vicky July 10, 2005 12:06 pm

    A true hero’s response.
    More important than winning a poetry contest, your post above shows your heart; a brave heart, a kind heart and a loving heart!

  • Gordon from Bora Bora July 10, 2005 11:44 am

    EN–we can kill each other a thousand times and when we wake up from the dream we will realize–it was friendly fire
    As we kill each other we kill ourselves
    You can preach your survival and the survival of your religion–but if it isn’t based on Love–it is for naught
    Chieu Hoi! My adversary–both of our lessons are now–if we can’t live in peace–what is the hope for the world?

  • EN July 10, 2005 2:12 am

    Jeff wrote:
    “a dead eye requires natural ability to simply point and shoot directly into center of target,in an instant,as opposed to taking the time to even bother with a sight…”
    Jeff, if you look at my comment again, it speaks of shooting with extreme accuracy to the head [an area of about 10″ x 7″] at 25 yds. I don’t care what natural instincts you think you have. If you are clearing from a holster and firing [let’s say the other person is known to have full body armor like those guys in LA in that shout out and you better well hit the target], you had damn well better do as you have trained and use the sight.
    I used to competitively shoot at a club. Some guys – a lot of them in LE – were incredible shots. Although none had ever shot a man, these guys trained so much that I doubt their reaction in a deadly situation would be any different. I asked a few why they trained so hard and they said because they loved their family. I think they got their ammo free also because shooting 400-500 rds a week of even 9mm ball ammo would run one about $100+ a week. And cops don’t have that type of money. They all closed one eye and looked right down the barrel at the front sight, in a split second. If anyone thinks that a shooter could do what Mel Gibson did in “Lethal Weapon” they are dreaming.
    EN – dead eye Dan to Gord, who has won the “Bad Poetry” contest. I surrender.