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Origins of Trumpism Long Predate Donald Trump

July 30, 2020

I am joined by Julian Zelizer, the Malcolm Stevenson Forbes Professor of History and Public Affairs at Princeton University, and a CNN Political Analyst.
We discuss Julian’s new book, “Burning Down the House: Newt Gingrich, the Fall of a Speaker, and the Rise of the New Republican Party.”
I also ask Julian’s thoughts on the following:
– How did Gingrich/Trump/Fox change a Republican mindset whereby their true believers accept anything and everything — even things that directly contradict everything the GOP used to stand for (anti-Russia, low debt, free trade) — just as long as it is R and not D?
– How are zombie cultists like that created?
– Can we ever win them back?
– Is it just racism/fear of non-white majorities? Or is it something deeper?

We also discuss President Trump’s tweet today about delaying the November elections.

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